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6/26/2009 11:42 PM Where is God?????? (274 Comments)
- Becks
- 24, United Kingdom
Where is God??????
peace be up on u every 1 n h ru ?
Now and again human beings are prompted to ask themselves some of life’s truly profound questions. In the quiet darkness of the night, when far off stars twinkle in the vast, majestic sky, or in the cold, hard, light of day when life rushes past like a speeding train, people of all colours, races and creeds wonder about the meaning of their existence. Why are we here? What does this all mean? Is this all there is?
On magnificent days filled with sunshine and iridescent blue skies, people turn their faces into the sun and contemplate the miraculous. In the deepest winter or the wildest storm, they ponder the strength inherent in the forces of nature. Somewhere in the deep recesses of the mind, the concept of God arises. The wonders of creation are a call to the heart and the soul. The gentle touch of a snowflake, the smell of freshly cut lawn, the soft patter of raindrops and fierce wind of a hurricane are all reminders that this world is full of wonder.
When pain and sadness threaten to engulf us, human beings are again prompted to contemplate the meaning of life. In the midst of suffering and grief, the concept of God arises. Even those who would consider themselves far from religion or spiritual belief find themselves looking skywards and pleading for help. When the heart constricts and fear swamps us, we turn helplessly towards some sort of higher power. The concept of a God then becomes real and meaningful.
In the midst of pleading and bargaining, the sheer vastness of the universe is laid bare. The signs of a Creator open before us and we cringe at the power and the strength that is now obvious. The reality of life is filled with awe and wonder. It is a rollercoaster ride. There are moments of great joy, and periods of immense sadness. Life can be long and monotonous or it can be carefree. As God arises and His majesty is clear, more questions begin to take shape. One question that inevitably comes to mind is – where is God?
Around the world and down through the ages people have struggled to come to terms with the question of where God is. The human inclination is to search for God. The ancient Babylonians and Egyptians built lofty towers in their search for God. The Persians looked for Him in fire. Still other, such as the indigenous people of North America and the Celtic people looked for God in the glorious signs of nature around them. Buddhists find God in themselves, and in the Hindu religion, God is believed to be in every place and in everything.
The quest for God can be confusing. When posing the question where is God, the resulting answers can also be confusing. God is everywhere. God is in your heart. God is where goodness and beauty exist. What happens however, when your heart is empty and your surroundings are dismal, dirty, and ugly? Does God cease to exist? No! Of course not! Amidst this confusion, the Islamic concept of God is a beacon of light for those stumbling in the darkness.
What Muslims believe about God is clear-cut and simple. They do not believe that God is everywhere; they believe that God is above the heavens. The human need to turn our faces towards the sky in times of trouble and strife is an inherent answer to the question, where is God? God tells us in the Quran that He is the Most High (Quran 2:255) and that He is above all His Creation.
“He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be. And God is the All-Seer of what you do.” (Quran 57:4)
Prophet Muhammad was known to point towards the sky when referring to God. When making supplication to God he raised his hands towards the heavens. During his Farewell sermon, Prophet Muhammad asked the people, “Have I not conveyed the message?” and they said, “Yes!” He asked again, “Have I not conveyed the message?” and they said, “Yes!” He asked a third time, “Have I not conveyed the message?” and they said “Yes!” Each time, he said, “O God, bear witness!” - at the same time pointing up to the sky and then at the people.[1]
God is above the heavens, above His creation. This however does not mean that He is contained by any sort of physical dimensions. God is close, very close, to those who believe in Him and He answers their every call. God knows all of our secrets, dreams, and wishes, nothing is hidden from Him. God is with His creation by His knowledge and power. God is the Creator and the Sustainer. Nothing comes into existence except by His will.
When Muslims marvel at the wonders of the universe they are secure in the knowledge that God, the Most High, is above the heavens, and comforted by the fact that He is with them in all their affairs. When a Muslim is struck by loss or grief, he does not question God’s wisdom, or ask the question, where was God when I was sad, or grieving or suffering? Humankind was created to worship God, (Quran 56:51) and God said many times that trials and tribulations would be part of our life experience.
“And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth in six Days ...that He might try you, which of you is the best in deeds.” (Quran 11:7)
In their blackest night, or their darkest hour humankind instinctively looks towards the sky. When their hearts beat heavily and fear threatens to overwhelm them, people turn to God. They raise their hands and beg for mercy, forgiveness, or kindness, and God responds; For He is the Most Merciful, the Most Forgiving and the Most Kind. God is distinct and separate from His creation, and there is nothing like Him. He is All Hearing and All seeing. (Quran 42:11) Hence when we ask the question where is God, the answer is undoubtedly, He is above the heavens.
peace be with u
Now and again human beings are prompted to ask themselves some of life’s truly profound questions. In the quiet darkness of the night, when far off stars twinkle in the vast, majestic sky, or in the cold, hard, light of day when life rushes past like a speeding train, people of all colours, races and creeds wonder about the meaning of their existence. Why are we here? What does this all mean? Is this all there is?
On magnificent days filled with sunshine and iridescent blue skies, people turn their faces into the sun and contemplate the miraculous. In the deepest winter or the wildest storm, they ponder the strength inherent in the forces of nature. Somewhere in the deep recesses of the mind, the concept of God arises. The wonders of creation are a call to the heart and the soul. The gentle touch of a snowflake, the smell of freshly cut lawn, the soft patter of raindrops and fierce wind of a hurricane are all reminders that this world is full of wonder.
When pain and sadness threaten to engulf us, human beings are again prompted to contemplate the meaning of life. In the midst of suffering and grief, the concept of God arises. Even those who would consider themselves far from religion or spiritual belief find themselves looking skywards and pleading for help. When the heart constricts and fear swamps us, we turn helplessly towards some sort of higher power. The concept of a God then becomes real and meaningful.
In the midst of pleading and bargaining, the sheer vastness of the universe is laid bare. The signs of a Creator open before us and we cringe at the power and the strength that is now obvious. The reality of life is filled with awe and wonder. It is a rollercoaster ride. There are moments of great joy, and periods of immense sadness. Life can be long and monotonous or it can be carefree. As God arises and His majesty is clear, more questions begin to take shape. One question that inevitably comes to mind is – where is God?
Around the world and down through the ages people have struggled to come to terms with the question of where God is. The human inclination is to search for God. The ancient Babylonians and Egyptians built lofty towers in their search for God. The Persians looked for Him in fire. Still other, such as the indigenous people of North America and the Celtic people looked for God in the glorious signs of nature around them. Buddhists find God in themselves, and in the Hindu religion, God is believed to be in every place and in everything.
The quest for God can be confusing. When posing the question where is God, the resulting answers can also be confusing. God is everywhere. God is in your heart. God is where goodness and beauty exist. What happens however, when your heart is empty and your surroundings are dismal, dirty, and ugly? Does God cease to exist? No! Of course not! Amidst this confusion, the Islamic concept of God is a beacon of light for those stumbling in the darkness.
What Muslims believe about God is clear-cut and simple. They do not believe that God is everywhere; they believe that God is above the heavens. The human need to turn our faces towards the sky in times of trouble and strife is an inherent answer to the question, where is God? God tells us in the Quran that He is the Most High (Quran 2:255) and that He is above all His Creation.
“He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be. And God is the All-Seer of what you do.” (Quran 57:4)
Prophet Muhammad was known to point towards the sky when referring to God. When making supplication to God he raised his hands towards the heavens. During his Farewell sermon, Prophet Muhammad asked the people, “Have I not conveyed the message?” and they said, “Yes!” He asked again, “Have I not conveyed the message?” and they said, “Yes!” He asked a third time, “Have I not conveyed the message?” and they said “Yes!” Each time, he said, “O God, bear witness!” - at the same time pointing up to the sky and then at the people.[1]
God is above the heavens, above His creation. This however does not mean that He is contained by any sort of physical dimensions. God is close, very close, to those who believe in Him and He answers their every call. God knows all of our secrets, dreams, and wishes, nothing is hidden from Him. God is with His creation by His knowledge and power. God is the Creator and the Sustainer. Nothing comes into existence except by His will.
When Muslims marvel at the wonders of the universe they are secure in the knowledge that God, the Most High, is above the heavens, and comforted by the fact that He is with them in all their affairs. When a Muslim is struck by loss or grief, he does not question God’s wisdom, or ask the question, where was God when I was sad, or grieving or suffering? Humankind was created to worship God, (Quran 56:51) and God said many times that trials and tribulations would be part of our life experience.
“And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth in six Days ...that He might try you, which of you is the best in deeds.” (Quran 11:7)
In their blackest night, or their darkest hour humankind instinctively looks towards the sky. When their hearts beat heavily and fear threatens to overwhelm them, people turn to God. They raise their hands and beg for mercy, forgiveness, or kindness, and God responds; For He is the Most Merciful, the Most Forgiving and the Most Kind. God is distinct and separate from His creation, and there is nothing like Him. He is All Hearing and All seeing. (Quran 42:11) Hence when we ask the question where is God, the answer is undoubtedly, He is above the heavens.
peace be with u
8/18/2009 8:00 AMRe: Where is God??????
Teddy
33, Doha, Qatar
God is humble! an extra ordinary, God is everywhere, as muslim believes that God is only in heaven it is very logical and letteral, i.e. if he is an ordinary human is is not possible that he can be everywhere if he is only in heaven but God is not an ordinary, we cannot describe him by all means but only his love and power remember God says: A day is like a thousand years same as a year is just like a day! we are in the world controlled buy his power and majesty even our dreams and destiny only God controls it wherever we are, so, it is very clear that he is everywhere in our life and our souls. even if we are good and bad he is always with us and to remind until the judgement day.
being a muslim or as in religion of islam it does not mean that you can assure yourself to be saved but a true muslim is man that submits himself to God as what islam means.it means a man with a good heart and a good doer on earth. it is not simply by religion and word but it is how you live it.
being a muslim or as in religion of islam it does not mean that you can assure yourself to be saved but a true muslim is man that submits himself to God as what islam means.it means a man with a good heart and a good doer on earth. it is not simply by religion and word but it is how you live it.
8/23/2009 3:45 PMRe: Where is God??????
In the name of ALLAH who is the most merciful and the most beneficent.
as salam o alikum w.r.w.b....
Dear Sir....
its a nYce topic..........
and here im gonna express my worlds about the existance if ALLAH according to me (and ALLAH almighty knows better)...........
actually im a poet and i write poetry in urdu but in english a lil bit.....
so in one of my Share(Poetry Verse) i express the existance of ALLAH in this way.....
1st in urdu......
Uski aik hi jaga hai Goshay meri rouh k Aakash....
kuch is tarah se wo mere qareeb hota hai saye se be zayada...
in English....
HE exists in me only in the pours of My Soul....
HE is near me more than my own Shadow.....
and if someone has the ability to feel ALLAH's existance then he can feel Him in his own Soul and dont have any need to think anymore or go somewhere to get prove for his existance, and no need to think that HE is on the Heavens......
and if someone isn't having this ability then He may say that there is no God in this universe......
May ALLAH forgive us All......
and guide us to the righteous path.....
the path of his most blessed persons.....
as salam o alikum w.r.w.b....
Dear Sir....
its a nYce topic..........
and here im gonna express my worlds about the existance if ALLAH according to me (and ALLAH almighty knows better)...........
actually im a poet and i write poetry in urdu but in english a lil bit.....
so in one of my Share(Poetry Verse) i express the existance of ALLAH in this way.....
1st in urdu......
Uski aik hi jaga hai Goshay meri rouh k Aakash....
kuch is tarah se wo mere qareeb hota hai saye se be zayada...
in English....
HE exists in me only in the pours of My Soul....
HE is near me more than my own Shadow.....
and if someone has the ability to feel ALLAH's existance then he can feel Him in his own Soul and dont have any need to think anymore or go somewhere to get prove for his existance, and no need to think that HE is on the Heavens......
and if someone isn't having this ability then He may say that there is no God in this universe......
May ALLAH forgive us All......
and guide us to the righteous path.....
the path of his most blessed persons.....
8/24/2009 4:00 PMRe: Re: Re: Where is God??????
8/24/2009 7:34 AMRe: Where is God??????
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and.....
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God.. .
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you.
Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist.
What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat.
But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go
any further after that.
There is no such thing as cold . Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of
heat
... We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy . Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if
you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent.. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & God is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
He asks one of his new students to stand and.....
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God.. .
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you.
Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist.
What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat.
But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go
any further after that.
There is no such thing as cold . Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of
heat
... We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy . Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if
you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent.. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & God is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
8/24/2009 4:18 PMRe: Re: Re: Where is God??????
Jazak ALLAH khair for liking my views and poetry.......
n actually i dont kno how to wish a nyce reply dear.......
coz im still a child.........
best reguards......
All the praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, The Beneficent, the Merciful.
n actually i dont kno how to wish a nyce reply dear.......
coz im still a child.........
best reguards......
All the praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, The Beneficent, the Merciful.
11/2/2009 6:12 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
lacharojwora
49, Bangkok, Thailand
10/24/2009 4:59 AMRe: Re: Where is God??????
Paul
52, Hawalli, Kuwait
Good Morning To you all & may the Peace and Blessing from Our God be with you always. The Student you refer to is one that we all have heard of his name...
(( Albert Einstien )). I do not claim to be perfect nor would I dare, but I do firmly believe that one day we will be suprised at who we think God is. Would it not be Wonderous and yet funny ( God can be funny too ! he created that emotion is in !!) that when we do reach Heaven we all find that the God we have been praying too is one in the same ?. Just food for though, not for wars or strife do I utter this question but to bring light to just how much in common we all have. May the Peace of the Lord be with you all my brothers and sisters. Paul in Kuwait
(( Albert Einstien )). I do not claim to be perfect nor would I dare, but I do firmly believe that one day we will be suprised at who we think God is. Would it not be Wonderous and yet funny ( God can be funny too ! he created that emotion is in !!) that when we do reach Heaven we all find that the God we have been praying too is one in the same ?. Just food for though, not for wars or strife do I utter this question but to bring light to just how much in common we all have. May the Peace of the Lord be with you all my brothers and sisters. Paul in Kuwait
11/11/2009 11:01 PMRe: Re: Re: Where is God??????
how are you all? i hope fine. Again i want show my respect to all religions and the aim of my topics is to show islam in its right view.
here is list by the new topics
1- persentation
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419617
2- Islam(Meanings)
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419629
3- 5 Actions In Islam
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419739
4- Islam Is - A Complete And Total Way of Life
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419871
5- 6 Beliefs Of Muslims
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419672
6- Rights & Limitations in ISLAM
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419976
7-The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/420181
All my best wishes.
9/5/2009 12:40 PMRe: Where is God??????
Rubab
25, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
IN ME IN YOU & IN EVERY THING.
ALLAH KA REHNA HI BANDY KA REHNA HY I MEAN JAB TAK ALLAH HAMARE ANDAR HY HAM HYN JAB ALLAH KISI K ANDAR SE NIKAL JATA HY TO WO PHIR INSAN NHE REHTA BAS MATI K EK MUJISMA BAN JATA HY OR LOG OS KO MATI MYN DAFAN KAR DETY HYN.
INSAN KA KUCH B NHE ALLAH JAB TAK HAMARE ANDAR HY HAMARA NAAM HY JAB ALLAH NIKAL JATA HY TO HAMARA NAM B CHANGE HO JATA HY YANI DEAD BODY. (MMYYAT)
ALLAH KA REHNA HI BANDY KA REHNA HY I MEAN JAB TAK ALLAH HAMARE ANDAR HY HAM HYN JAB ALLAH KISI K ANDAR SE NIKAL JATA HY TO WO PHIR INSAN NHE REHTA BAS MATI K EK MUJISMA BAN JATA HY OR LOG OS KO MATI MYN DAFAN KAR DETY HYN.
INSAN KA KUCH B NHE ALLAH JAB TAK HAMARE ANDAR HY HAMARA NAAM HY JAB ALLAH NIKAL JATA HY TO HAMARA NAM B CHANGE HO JATA HY YANI DEAD BODY. (MMYYAT)
9/6/2009 6:41 PMRe: Re: Re: Where is God??????
Rubab
25, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
I DONT KNOW TAGLOG HERE I TRANSLATE IT TO ENGLISH.
IN ME IN YOU & IN EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD.
GOD LIVES IN OUR BODIES IN OUR SOULS, IF THE GOD IS HERE IN OURSELVES WE ARE ALIVE AND IF GOD MOVE FROM SOMEONE, HE/SHE BECOME DEAD.
WHENEVER GOD LIVE IN OURSELVES, WE HAVE NAMES, I.E. TOM, ERIC, MARRY BUT WHEN GOD MOVE OUT FROM US OUR NAME SWAS ALSO CHANGED, THEN PEOPLE CALL US DEAD BODY.
IN ME IN YOU & IN EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD.
GOD LIVES IN OUR BODIES IN OUR SOULS, IF THE GOD IS HERE IN OURSELVES WE ARE ALIVE AND IF GOD MOVE FROM SOMEONE, HE/SHE BECOME DEAD.
WHENEVER GOD LIVE IN OURSELVES, WE HAVE NAMES, I.E. TOM, ERIC, MARRY BUT WHEN GOD MOVE OUT FROM US OUR NAME SWAS ALSO CHANGED, THEN PEOPLE CALL US DEAD BODY.
9/6/2009 6:58 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
Rubab
25, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
MOST WELCOME
11/2/2009 6:11 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
lacharojwora
49, Bangkok, Thailand
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11/2/2009 6:11 PMRe: Re: Where is God??????
lacharojwora
49, Bangkok, Thailand
11/11/2009 11:02 PMRe: Re: Where is God??????
how are you all? i hope fine. Again i want show my respect to all religions and the aim of my topics is to show islam in its right view.
here is list by the new topics
1- persentation
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419617
2- Islam(Meanings)
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419629
3- 5 Actions In Islam
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419739
4- Islam Is - A Complete And Total Way of Life
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419871
5- 6 Beliefs Of Muslims
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419672
6- Rights & Limitations in ISLAM
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419976
7-The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/420181
All my best wishes.
9/6/2009 6:58 PMRe: Where is God??????
9/7/2009 7:26 AMRe: Where is God??????
bangbang216
50, Taiwan
God is in heaven, invisible, immortal and eternal. Amen.
10/15/2009 9:10 AMRe: Where is God??????
John
41, Wellington, New Zealand
Greetings in the name of the one and only true saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.
It s a shame that many people believe that Allah is the God of the Bible.
Allah IS an Arabic word meaning "God", and so a lot depends on who is doing the talking. For instance, Arab Christians refer to the God of the Bible when using the word Allah. However, Muslims refer to a god that is far away from the God of the Bible. The Allah worshiped by Muslims is a false god. You can read some of the differences here:http://www.contenderministries.org/islam.php#comparisonchart . The God of the Bible - the Allah of Arab Christians - is triune (one God in three persons: Father, Son, Holy Spirit). The Allah of Islam is not triune. Muslims believe Allah is one person, Jesus is a separate person and not divine, and the Holy Spirit is actually an angel. Some people will use the "it's just an Arabic word for God" line, but when you define the Allah of Islam versus the Allah of Arab Christians, it's clear that they are not one in the same. I hope this helps.
The Gospel and the Qur’an’s religious philosophy
In the Bible the Gospel is as the Apostle John declared, “This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.”11 “And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom Thou hast sent.”12 The whole purpose of the God of Scripture is clearly seen in the reason why the Gospel of John was written, “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” This is totally different from the god of Islam who orders fighting, war, and punishment, by murder, crucifixion and amputation. The following is just a sample of the primary concept of fighting for Allah that the Qur’an requires:
“And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.” Surah 2.191
“And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.” Surah 2.193
“…let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.” Surah 4.74
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,” Surah 5.33
“Those who believe fight in the way of Allah,…” Surah 8.39
The commandment of the Lord is as different as darkness and light, for He says, “Love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.”13 While many individual Muslims may deplore atrocities committed in the name of Islam, it cannot be denied that these atrocities are justified and encouraged by Islamic teaching. Even the most moderate form of Islam is incompatible with Biblical truth.
True, bible-believing Christianity is the only way to heaven.
Dean. cooper.dean2009@gmail.com
http://christian-truths2.blogspot.com/
It s a shame that many people believe that Allah is the God of the Bible.
Allah IS an Arabic word meaning "God", and so a lot depends on who is doing the talking. For instance, Arab Christians refer to the God of the Bible when using the word Allah. However, Muslims refer to a god that is far away from the God of the Bible. The Allah worshiped by Muslims is a false god. You can read some of the differences here:http://www.contenderministries.org/islam.php#comparisonchart . The God of the Bible - the Allah of Arab Christians - is triune (one God in three persons: Father, Son, Holy Spirit). The Allah of Islam is not triune. Muslims believe Allah is one person, Jesus is a separate person and not divine, and the Holy Spirit is actually an angel. Some people will use the "it's just an Arabic word for God" line, but when you define the Allah of Islam versus the Allah of Arab Christians, it's clear that they are not one in the same. I hope this helps.
The Gospel and the Qur’an’s religious philosophy
In the Bible the Gospel is as the Apostle John declared, “This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.”11 “And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom Thou hast sent.”12 The whole purpose of the God of Scripture is clearly seen in the reason why the Gospel of John was written, “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” This is totally different from the god of Islam who orders fighting, war, and punishment, by murder, crucifixion and amputation. The following is just a sample of the primary concept of fighting for Allah that the Qur’an requires:
“And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.” Surah 2.191
“And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.” Surah 2.193
“…let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.” Surah 4.74
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,” Surah 5.33
“Those who believe fight in the way of Allah,…” Surah 8.39
The commandment of the Lord is as different as darkness and light, for He says, “Love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.”13 While many individual Muslims may deplore atrocities committed in the name of Islam, it cannot be denied that these atrocities are justified and encouraged by Islamic teaching. Even the most moderate form of Islam is incompatible with Biblical truth.
True, bible-believing Christianity is the only way to heaven.
Dean. cooper.dean2009@gmail.com
http://christian-truths2.blogspot.com/
10/15/2009 7:41 PMRe: Re: Where is God??????
Becks
24, United Kingdom
The word "Allah" is the perfect description of the "One God" of monotheism for Jews, Christians and Muslims!
Is "Allah" only for Islam and Muslims?
[No! It is for All Three Abrahamic Faiths.]
"Allah" is the same word used by Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs in their Bible, centuries before Islam came.
On page one [1] of Genesis in the Old Testament, we find the word "Allah" seventeen [17] times.
Every hotel and motel has a Bible. Next time you see one look in the introduction, you will find samples of the different languages they have translated. For Arabic they have translated the verse in the New Testament in Arabic from the famous verse in the Gospel John 3:16 -
"For God so loved the world..."
- and the word the translators used in Arabic for "God" is the very same word used by Muslims around the planet, "Allah."
Where Does the word "Allah" Come From?
"Allah" comes from the Arabic word "elah"a god' or something worshiped. - (Arabic) means '
This word (elah) can be made plural (gods), as in "aleha" and it can be male or female just as the word in English can be "goddess."
"Allah" comes from "elaha" but it brings more clarification and understanding.
Allah = Has no gender (not male and not female)
"He" is used only out of respect and dignity - not for gender
Allah = Always singular - Never plural
"We" is used only as the "Royal WE" just as in English for royalty
Allah = Means "The Only One to be Worshipped"
about jesus peace be up on him
he cant be god nor son
bc god cant be seen
god dnt have to eat nor to drink
god dnt sleep
god dnt go to work
god dnt go to gym
god dnt breathe air
jesus hes prophet peace be up on him
u can try 2 see sum verse in luke 19:27
jesus said bring my enemies and kill them infront of me
this about verse wich u mentioned here
bc the pagans or people of mecca were showin the muslims all kind of torment and they were killin the muslims
and rapin the women and stealin their money
and puting them in the desert and put on their chests rocks and dnt let them to drink water nor to eat
and they were lashing the muslims and prevent them from their families and using fire to hurt them so much
and treat them so so bad
so thats it
The Importance of Context
The word ‘context' has two dictionary meanings:
• The parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect.
• The set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.
Any discussion on Qur'anic verses that refer to violence would be meaningless, without a study of the surrounding context. Before we study the verses in question, therefore, let us examine this issue in a wider perspective:
The Sanctity of Life
The Glorious Qur'an says:
“…take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.”
[Al-Qur'an 6:151]
Islam considers all life forms as sacred. However, the sanctity of human life is accorded a special place. The first and the foremost basic right of a human being is the right to live. The Glorious Qur'an says:
“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”
[Al-Qur'an 5:32]
Such is the value of a single human life, that the Qur'an equates the taking of even one human life unjustly, with killing all of humanity .
The Verses of War
The words that often causes consternation among those unfamiliar with Islam, is:
“…and slay them wherever ye catch them…”
The truth is that this is only part of the verse 191 of Chapter 2 of the Qur'an. Let us read the verses 190 to 191 in order to get a complete picture:
“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.”
[Al-Qur'an 2:190-191]
It is a well-known fact of Islamic history, that fighting against aggressors was prohibited during the first thirteen years of the Prophet's mission. After Muslims migrated to Madina , the verses above were revealed to enable the community to fight in self-defense. The verses that follow clearly indicate Islam's prohibition on aggression and inclination towards peace:
“But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.”
[Al-Qur'an 2:192-193]
The verses above specifically refer to fighting against oppression and in defense of religious freedom as the Glorious Qur'an says:
“Let there be no compulsion in religion”
[Al-Qur'an 2:256]
Fair-dealing towards all
When read in context, the above verses do not even remotely suggest an exhortation for Muslims to be vicious or hateful towards people of other faiths. Far from this, the Qur'an actually requires that Muslims conduct themselves with fairness and dignity in all matters, and especially in regard to interfaith relations, as indicated by the following verse:
“Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
[Al-Qur'an 60:8]
Is "Allah" only for Islam and Muslims?
[No! It is for All Three Abrahamic Faiths.]
"Allah" is the same word used by Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs in their Bible, centuries before Islam came.
On page one [1] of Genesis in the Old Testament, we find the word "Allah" seventeen [17] times.
Every hotel and motel has a Bible. Next time you see one look in the introduction, you will find samples of the different languages they have translated. For Arabic they have translated the verse in the New Testament in Arabic from the famous verse in the Gospel John 3:16 -
"For God so loved the world..."
- and the word the translators used in Arabic for "God" is the very same word used by Muslims around the planet, "Allah."
Where Does the word "Allah" Come From?
"Allah" comes from the Arabic word "elah"a god' or something worshiped. - (Arabic) means '
This word (elah) can be made plural (gods), as in "aleha" and it can be male or female just as the word in English can be "goddess."
"Allah" comes from "elaha" but it brings more clarification and understanding.
Allah = Has no gender (not male and not female)
"He" is used only out of respect and dignity - not for gender
Allah = Always singular - Never plural
"We" is used only as the "Royal WE" just as in English for royalty
Allah = Means "The Only One to be Worshipped"
about jesus peace be up on him
he cant be god nor son
bc god cant be seen
god dnt have to eat nor to drink
god dnt sleep
god dnt go to work
god dnt go to gym
god dnt breathe air
jesus hes prophet peace be up on him
u can try 2 see sum verse in luke 19:27
jesus said bring my enemies and kill them infront of me
this about verse wich u mentioned here
bc the pagans or people of mecca were showin the muslims all kind of torment and they were killin the muslims
and rapin the women and stealin their money
and puting them in the desert and put on their chests rocks and dnt let them to drink water nor to eat
and they were lashing the muslims and prevent them from their families and using fire to hurt them so much
and treat them so so bad
so thats it
The Importance of Context
The word ‘context' has two dictionary meanings:
• The parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect.
• The set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.
Any discussion on Qur'anic verses that refer to violence would be meaningless, without a study of the surrounding context. Before we study the verses in question, therefore, let us examine this issue in a wider perspective:
The Sanctity of Life
The Glorious Qur'an says:
“…take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.”
[Al-Qur'an 6:151]
Islam considers all life forms as sacred. However, the sanctity of human life is accorded a special place. The first and the foremost basic right of a human being is the right to live. The Glorious Qur'an says:
“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”
[Al-Qur'an 5:32]
Such is the value of a single human life, that the Qur'an equates the taking of even one human life unjustly, with killing all of humanity .
The Verses of War
The words that often causes consternation among those unfamiliar with Islam, is:
“…and slay them wherever ye catch them…”
The truth is that this is only part of the verse 191 of Chapter 2 of the Qur'an. Let us read the verses 190 to 191 in order to get a complete picture:
“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.”
[Al-Qur'an 2:190-191]
It is a well-known fact of Islamic history, that fighting against aggressors was prohibited during the first thirteen years of the Prophet's mission. After Muslims migrated to Madina , the verses above were revealed to enable the community to fight in self-defense. The verses that follow clearly indicate Islam's prohibition on aggression and inclination towards peace:
“But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.”
[Al-Qur'an 2:192-193]
The verses above specifically refer to fighting against oppression and in defense of religious freedom as the Glorious Qur'an says:
“Let there be no compulsion in religion”
[Al-Qur'an 2:256]
Fair-dealing towards all
When read in context, the above verses do not even remotely suggest an exhortation for Muslims to be vicious or hateful towards people of other faiths. Far from this, the Qur'an actually requires that Muslims conduct themselves with fairness and dignity in all matters, and especially in regard to interfaith relations, as indicated by the following verse:
“Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
[Al-Qur'an 60:8]
10/16/2009 6:31 AMRe: Re: Re: Where is God??????
John
41, Wellington, New Zealand
Regardless of what the word "allah" means, allah is NOT mentioned in the bible.
You said :
"Allah" is the same word used by Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs in their Bible, centuries before Islam came.
True. But why have you deleted my post showing you HISTORIC PROVEN FACTS that allah was an idol and moon-god?
Again, you go on and on about the word allah means "god". Yes, this may be true and you do worship a "god", but it is NOT the god of Abraham, Issac or the Bible.
You say allah is all-merciful. Why then can Mulims not tell me if they know if they are going to heaven or not? If allah was merciful, all muslims would go to heaven. But no, you must earn you way into heaven. The God of the Bible says that you CANNOT work or earn you way into heaven!
So, are you saying there is contradictions in the qur-an?
Please explain what exactly is meant by :
Sura 9:5 says, "Fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every strategem of war." Sura 5:33 records what is done to infidels who resist Islam: "Their punishment is...execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from the opposite sides, or exile from the land." Muhammad also burned out eyes with hot irons (Hadith vol. 1, no. 234) and deprived people of water until they died (vol. 8, no. 796).
The Hadith (another "holy" book of Islam) says that Jihad, or holy war, is the second best thing to believing in Allah and his apostle (Muhammad). Allah's apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and his Apostle." The questioner then asked, "What is the next?" He replied, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's cause." (Hadith vol. 1, no. 25).
And the following contradictions :
he Quran gives four conflicting accounts of how Muhammad was called to be a prophet--(1) In Suras 53:2-18 and 81:19-24, Allah personally appeared. (2) In Suras 16:102 and 26:192-194 he was called by "the Holy Spirit". (3) In Sura 15:8 the angels announced his prophetic ministry; and , (4) The angel Gabriel told him of his ministry and hands him the Quran. Who were Muhammad's first supposed converts? Genies! Yes, Muhammad supposedly preached to and converted genies in Suras 46:29-35; 72:1-28. How convenient that there was no one around to confirm his prophethood.
I pray you will learn the truth about your false god.
You said :
"Allah" is the same word used by Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs in their Bible, centuries before Islam came.
True. But why have you deleted my post showing you HISTORIC PROVEN FACTS that allah was an idol and moon-god?
Again, you go on and on about the word allah means "god". Yes, this may be true and you do worship a "god", but it is NOT the god of Abraham, Issac or the Bible.
You say allah is all-merciful. Why then can Mulims not tell me if they know if they are going to heaven or not? If allah was merciful, all muslims would go to heaven. But no, you must earn you way into heaven. The God of the Bible says that you CANNOT work or earn you way into heaven!
So, are you saying there is contradictions in the qur-an?
Please explain what exactly is meant by :
Sura 9:5 says, "Fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every strategem of war." Sura 5:33 records what is done to infidels who resist Islam: "Their punishment is...execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from the opposite sides, or exile from the land." Muhammad also burned out eyes with hot irons (Hadith vol. 1, no. 234) and deprived people of water until they died (vol. 8, no. 796).
The Hadith (another "holy" book of Islam) says that Jihad, or holy war, is the second best thing to believing in Allah and his apostle (Muhammad). Allah's apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and his Apostle." The questioner then asked, "What is the next?" He replied, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's cause." (Hadith vol. 1, no. 25).
And the following contradictions :
he Quran gives four conflicting accounts of how Muhammad was called to be a prophet--(1) In Suras 53:2-18 and 81:19-24, Allah personally appeared. (2) In Suras 16:102 and 26:192-194 he was called by "the Holy Spirit". (3) In Sura 15:8 the angels announced his prophetic ministry; and , (4) The angel Gabriel told him of his ministry and hands him the Quran. Who were Muhammad's first supposed converts? Genies! Yes, Muhammad supposedly preached to and converted genies in Suras 46:29-35; 72:1-28. How convenient that there was no one around to confirm his prophethood.
I pray you will learn the truth about your false god.
10/16/2009 7:35 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
Becks
24, United Kingdom
here ur sources from anti islam sites n its fake
and here u wnana to insultin muslims
so if u wnana to make debate u r welcome
but in nice ways
i respect christiniaty and judism n all religions n all beleifs
but without hurting others feelings
and 1th try 2 make sure of ur sources bc ur sources r anti islam n they r fake
thnx
Is 'Allah' the same god of the Jews and Christians?
Yes. The word in Hebrew came from "El" and in Arabic from "Elh". The word for "god" (note the small 'g' in English) is "Elah". Compare this to "Eloi" and "Eli" in the New Testament.
The word "Allah" is the perfect word to describe the God of Jews and Christians as it does not permit gender nor plural. Therefore, when the word is used as in "Eloihim" or "Allahumma" (these would appear at first to be plural and/or female genders) it becomes clear it is the royal usage such as a king would use in referring to his royal station while make a decree of some type. The king would state, "We decree the following..." and he is actually talking about his royal position rather than plural status.
There is no word in English for the "God" of Israel, the "God" of Jesus. This explains why the spelling remains the same whether speaking of a false "god" or pagan idol and the "God" of Abraham or Moses or Jesus (peace be upon them). Note the use of the capital "g" (G). This is the only way English can present a difference between the two. In the Semitic languages it is easy to distinguish the difference between a "god" and "The God" due to the structure of the word itself.
Evidence for this is quite simple. Visit any motel or hotel and remove the Bible located in the drawer next to the bed (placed they courtesy of the Gideon Society). Note inside the first few pages a reference to the translations of the Bible they have made into 27 languages. The second example they give is to the Arabic language of the passage in the New Testament from the Gospel of John 3:16. The verse begins in English; "For God so loved the world.." and in the Arabic translation the word used for "God" is "Allah."
The Arabic Bible beginning with the Book of Genesis uses the word "Allah" to represent "The God" of Creation; Adam and Eve; Noah; Abraham; Ishmael and Isaac and Israel. Page one of Genesis has the word "Allah" 17 times.
quran is true word of god
here the proof
here ur sources from anti islam sites n its fake
and here u wnana to insultin muslims
so if u wnana to make debate u r welcome
but in nice ways
i respect christiniaty and judism n all religions n all beleifs
but without hurting others feelings
and 1th try 2 make sure of ur sources bc ur sources r anti islam n they r fake
those reason bc jesus cant be god
bc god dnt have to eat nor to drink nor to get tired
nor to go to sleep nor to hav intercousre
not to hav kids
not to drink water not to go to gym not to breathe air
god qualities is different
god is always live
god cant be lil baby in his mum tummy
god cant drink milk or eat foods not to go to bathroom
thats the truth
jesus peace be up on him hes prophet
and we love jesus and we respect him as prophet of god
peace be with u
thnx
and here u wnana to insultin muslims
so if u wnana to make debate u r welcome
but in nice ways
i respect christiniaty and judism n all religions n all beleifs
but without hurting others feelings
and 1th try 2 make sure of ur sources bc ur sources r anti islam n they r fake
thnx
Is 'Allah' the same god of the Jews and Christians?
Yes. The word in Hebrew came from "El" and in Arabic from "Elh". The word for "god" (note the small 'g' in English) is "Elah". Compare this to "Eloi" and "Eli" in the New Testament.
The word "Allah" is the perfect word to describe the God of Jews and Christians as it does not permit gender nor plural. Therefore, when the word is used as in "Eloihim" or "Allahumma" (these would appear at first to be plural and/or female genders) it becomes clear it is the royal usage such as a king would use in referring to his royal station while make a decree of some type. The king would state, "We decree the following..." and he is actually talking about his royal position rather than plural status.
There is no word in English for the "God" of Israel, the "God" of Jesus. This explains why the spelling remains the same whether speaking of a false "god" or pagan idol and the "God" of Abraham or Moses or Jesus (peace be upon them). Note the use of the capital "g" (G). This is the only way English can present a difference between the two. In the Semitic languages it is easy to distinguish the difference between a "god" and "The God" due to the structure of the word itself.
Evidence for this is quite simple. Visit any motel or hotel and remove the Bible located in the drawer next to the bed (placed they courtesy of the Gideon Society). Note inside the first few pages a reference to the translations of the Bible they have made into 27 languages. The second example they give is to the Arabic language of the passage in the New Testament from the Gospel of John 3:16. The verse begins in English; "For God so loved the world.." and in the Arabic translation the word used for "God" is "Allah."
The Arabic Bible beginning with the Book of Genesis uses the word "Allah" to represent "The God" of Creation; Adam and Eve; Noah; Abraham; Ishmael and Isaac and Israel. Page one of Genesis has the word "Allah" 17 times.
quran is true word of god
here the proof
here ur sources from anti islam sites n its fake
and here u wnana to insultin muslims
so if u wnana to make debate u r welcome
but in nice ways
i respect christiniaty and judism n all religions n all beleifs
but without hurting others feelings
and 1th try 2 make sure of ur sources bc ur sources r anti islam n they r fake
those reason bc jesus cant be god
bc god dnt have to eat nor to drink nor to get tired
nor to go to sleep nor to hav intercousre
not to hav kids
not to drink water not to go to gym not to breathe air
god qualities is different
god is always live
god cant be lil baby in his mum tummy
god cant drink milk or eat foods not to go to bathroom
thats the truth
jesus peace be up on him hes prophet
and we love jesus and we respect him as prophet of god
peace be with u
thnx
10/20/2009 2:38 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
dave
49, capitan, New Mexico, United States
hi becks
sadly we , as well as u , have radicals that have much haterd in there own hearts , then do them much harm to our own beleifs ,
for most we most learn to live in peace , and love ; in by my God tells me ,
that we should pray for each other
if u pray for one , u shall find it very hard indeed to hurt him
dave
sadly we , as well as u , have radicals that have much haterd in there own hearts , then do them much harm to our own beleifs ,
for most we most learn to live in peace , and love ; in by my God tells me ,
that we should pray for each other
if u pray for one , u shall find it very hard indeed to hurt him
dave
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10/31/2009 12:31 AMRe: Where is God??????
apple-sun200
24, Xian, Shaanxi, China
God bless you!!!
11/2/2009 6:17 PMRe: Where is God??????
lacharojwora
49, Bangkok, Thailand
6/27/2009 10:03 AMRe: Where is God??????
its here, near! more near than our breath!
6/27/2009 1:42 PMRe: Re: Re: Where is God??????
pleasure :)
11/2/2009 6:17 PMRe: Re: Where is God??????
lacharojwora
49, Bangkok, Thailand
6/29/2009 7:19 AMRe: Where is God??????
rubab_syed
16, Sialkot, Pakistan
God is evry where in the universe HE IS IN THE MOUNTAINS IN THE RIVERS EBRY WHERE WE CAN FORGET OURSELES BUT NOT GOD
6/29/2009 2:21 PMRe: Re: Re: Where is God??????
rubab_syed
16, Sialkot, Pakistan
ok sir
6/29/2009 1:14 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
Becks
24, United Kingdom
yea inshallah and u can go to salah
and please make duaa for me
my real name is mohammed
make duaa for me to get well from meningitis
allah bless u
and please make duaa for me
my real name is mohammed
make duaa for me to get well from meningitis
allah bless u
6/29/2009 1:40 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
abdo
29, Malaysia
you will man be well insha Allah.
i already made duaa for you.
you too make duaa for me that i finish my study and make my parents happy. i already being long time away from home trying to get master in english language....it is not easy, i already failed too many times.
i hope i get my master someday. i just want make my parents happy. So, you too, make duaa for me that i go well in my study.
Don't worry man, nothing last forever. you will get better insha ALLAH for sure.
i already made duaa for you.
you too make duaa for me that i finish my study and make my parents happy. i already being long time away from home trying to get master in english language....it is not easy, i already failed too many times.
i hope i get my master someday. i just want make my parents happy. So, you too, make duaa for me that i go well in my study.
Don't worry man, nothing last forever. you will get better insha ALLAH for sure.
11/2/2009 6:18 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
lacharojwora
49, Bangkok, Thailand
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11/2/2009 6:19 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
lacharojwora
49, Bangkok, Thailand
7/1/2009 11:28 AMRe: Where is God??????
Ckoep Flower
64, Indonesia
hi Beck how r u? thanks for inviting me to be this member.
Allah swt is there arround us,his existence alwys caring of us..
i believed that we can not see him but he can see us even every second we breath n move...thanks may Allah bless us
Allah swt is there arround us,his existence alwys caring of us..
i believed that we can not see him but he can see us even every second we breath n move...thanks may Allah bless us
7/2/2009 5:55 AMRe: Where is God??????
Ckoep Flower
64, Indonesia
ur welcome i'm glad to meet you,..Btw dont call me moonlight
i'm sorry i forgot introduce myself.....myname's Novie Wiedia.
this my real name....wish u hve a good time..thanks Beck.
i'm sorry i forgot introduce myself.....myname's Novie Wiedia.
this my real name....wish u hve a good time..thanks Beck.
7/5/2009 6:07 PMRe: Where is God??????
ambarukmini
45, Jakarta, Indonesia
I is not God here and there. Menemuimu if I can, and I need to close. click certainly have! please find me. always healthy. tanks
Ambar.
Ambar.
7/8/2009 2:29 PMRe: Where is God??????
hello becks and thanks for making me a part of this group
GOD, either JEHOVAH or ALLAH, is everywhere. Inside us and in this vast complex universe, HE guides us and shows us the right way. I am a Christian but i have a rpofound respect for my Islam brothers and sisters as well, because GOD created us all. One thing is different between us. We Christians also believe that Jesus will come to take us to HEAVENS.
GOD, either JEHOVAH or ALLAH, is everywhere. Inside us and in this vast complex universe, HE guides us and shows us the right way. I am a Christian but i have a rpofound respect for my Islam brothers and sisters as well, because GOD created us all. One thing is different between us. We Christians also believe that Jesus will come to take us to HEAVENS.
7/8/2009 10:43 PMRe: Re: Where is God??????
Becks
24, United Kingdom
hey cristina n h ru ?
u welcome anytime
and welcome for ur comin here
and i respect all religions cristina
and in islam we beleive in oness of god and we beleive in prophet muhammad peace be up on him is the prophet of god and we beleive in all prophets and their holly books and we love jesus as good prophet and he get special place to god and hes son of virgin mary and we believe in his miracle born
and and he wil came back again
and we r human beings
thnx u anyway glad to meet u here
u welcome anytime
and welcome for ur comin here
and i respect all religions cristina
and in islam we beleive in oness of god and we beleive in prophet muhammad peace be up on him is the prophet of god and we beleive in all prophets and their holly books and we love jesus as good prophet and he get special place to god and hes son of virgin mary and we believe in his miracle born
and and he wil came back again
and we r human beings
thnx u anyway glad to meet u here
11/2/2009 6:18 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Where is God??????
lacharojwora
49, Bangkok, Thailand
11/2/2009 6:19 PMRe: Re: Re: Where is God??????
lacharojwora
49, Bangkok, Thailand
7/3/2009 4:53 AMRe: Where is God??????